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"hello steve"

Yes, that what i though, thankyou. And as you say, i far as i know English brake vans where much less, assumable, like you say becuase of the smaller distances. The had stoves, for heating and tea/elevenses but i dont think they where ever sleeped in, and im not sure if they where even assined...

Well, im cringing at the idea of a 25w anywhere near my decoders!!

But there an american thing right? - which i why i've never come across them much? (living in the UK) - but there basicly like a extended idea of the "brake van" ? thanks, daniel

I've been browsing this board for a long time, but i've never really understood what a "caboose" is??? - i one point i though i know what it was, but i think i've got the wrong end of the stick!! daniel

Wow shaygetz that amazing - im looking to do somthing like that in a while, Only in N, on a GWR line, with a peco turntable. daniel

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yeah, after i've spent hours geting the balest "just right" the last thing i want it it all moving out of place!! - and my layout hinges up out of the way, so it would all fall off, even if i didnt hoover it!!

Also, it does depend on the gauge your using. I use a 25w antex for soldering to my n-gauge track and it works fine, and i've used it one 00 quote happyly, but i imagen it would just make a mess of O-gauge! also, it not stupid to have more than one soldering iron, i have three, - an 80w...

Well, i've tryed reading about designing yards for long enough, i think i need to have a go at operating one now, and seeing as i need to build it before i can operate it, im going to get building. I know it would be better if i could find someone who had one i could try first, but i know that...

OK, i'll have a go with a motor, without any indexing. what motors do people use? the turn table i have is the peco one. thanks, daniel

If, yeah, but your'll only get gaps upto the size of what you remove, obviusly, so it wont be too bad. - also, if you need to, you might have to chop a lenght if rail in half, so that there are to expention/comtraction joints sharing the diffrence.

Yeah, most of the layout hinges up, with yard at the back saying flat, proteced by the rest of the layout, so its not in direct light, and semi shealded from dust, and we dont have a cat. So there not a great deal of threat its just that it it does get left out for along time, 8mouths at time...

ok, thanks, i know what you mean about not soldering to it, but there are aready 4 wires that have being put on duing maufacturing, on the each frog, and one to each side oof the centre of the unit - as you say, i think if you feed power from "all four corners", the this is fully power...

so how diffrent are the new bachmann to the graham farish's that i bought back in 1997 - and are the dapol any good, becuase they have bit of a tarnished reputaion dont they? - and if i do buy a second hand Grahamfarish, how can i tell how old it is, and how much should i look to pay for...

and after spending ages looking for one of the web, i mentioned it to my dad and he got me a bag of 20 from the electronics shop near is work, for £0.50 each daniel

jetrock, the perspex (plexiglass) sidding might be a problem if i got a derailment, but if its just stright track, and im Only using it as storage - ie not shunting into it all the time, just out and back in once a day. - but, thinking about it, i guess there not reason why it would have to...

also, while im here - im right in saying that to get the pollarity right for the frogs i need to conect the wires to a switch on the point motor at the opposite end and of the slip? daniel

well, i got board of waiting for a reply, so i did some playing/hard looking, and i found out... - even tho there insulfrogs, i need plasic joiners to the frogs (i dont know what i was thinking before) - the two central wires, can simple be wired up to the power, although they dont need...

yeah, sounds very much like the thermo-cut-out on your transformer is triping out (and then back ina few seconds after the load is removed) - it could be to motor is drawing more as it ages and becomes demagnesied - or the tranformers cut out may be geting more sensotive If you can...